Thread: [csjava-developer] TheButtonMatrix update

Hi, all.

I've updated TheButtonMatrix extension in csimage.developers.dvanhumb to 
use a separate window for the buttons, showing it only when there are 
buttons to display.
You should be able to see it if you wait a couple hours (maybe until 1pm 
today, but I'm not sure). I just know that commits don't appear right 
after you commit them.

Anyway, comments and feedback accepted.
Daryl.


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Ok, I've updated TheButtonMatrix, completing support for placing the 
buttons in any of five different positions (at the top of the window, 
the bottom of the window, to the left, the right, and in a separate, 
moveable window), as well as all three of the default buttons (load, 
save and close).

I haven't yet included an icon for load because I'm working on that image.

If anyone has any comments, please send them to me so I can address them.

Daryl, aka, raceimaztion.


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Hi Daryl,

I tried TheButtonMatrix test, and I think almost all there ... But a there
are some issues:

 - Some combinations of calling buttonsDetached() and, for instance,
buttonsAtTop(), don't seem to work correctly, e.g. The buttons appear at the
top but attached. I suggest that for now the detached buttons option be
disabled, and only have attached buttons.

 - When the buttons are attached to the image, they cover up part of the
image. Better is to have a separate panel beside/above/below the image
that's attached to the same frame and holds the buttons so that none of the
image is obscured.

With those changes, I think it's ready to add to TheMatrix as a new main
feature.

Toby


On 5/4/05 5:22 PM, "Daryl Van Humbeck" <dva...@sf...> wrote:

> Ok, I've updated TheButtonMatrix, completing support for placing the
> buttons in any of five different positions (at the top of the window,
> the bottom of the window, to the left, the right, and in a separate,
> moveable window), as well as all three of the default buttons (load,
> save and close).
> 
> I haven't yet included an icon for load because I'm working on that image.
> 
> If anyone has any comments, please send them to me so I can address them.
> 
> Daryl, aka, raceimaztion.
> 

Ok, I wasn't sure if the buttens were supposed to be able to be 
attached, yet positioned someplace, or just detached in a default position.

Yes, having options of places to put the detached "toolbar" sounds like 
a good idea.

To change the part about the buttons obscuring the image when they're 
still attached, I'd have to delve into the repaint code, and maybe add 
another class (e.g., a BufferedImageIcon) to handle drawing the image.

I'll see what's easier.

Daryl.

Toby Donaldson wrote:

>Hi Daryl,
>
>I tried TheButtonMatrix test, and I think almost all there ... But a there
>are some issues:
>
> - Some combinations of calling buttonsDetached() and, for instance,
>buttonsAtTop(), don't seem to work correctly, e.g. The buttons appear at the
>top but attached. I suggest that for now the detached buttons option be
>disabled, and only have attached buttons.
>
> - When the buttons are attached to the image, they cover up part of the
>image. Better is to have a separate panel beside/above/below the image
>that's attached to the same frame and holds the buttons so that none of the
>image is obscured.
>
>With those changes, I think it's ready to add to TheMatrix as a new main
>feature.
>
>Toby
>
>
>On 5/4/05 5:22 PM, "Daryl Van Humbeck" <dva...@sf...> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Ok, I've updated TheButtonMatrix, completing support for placing the
>>buttons in any of five different positions (at the top of the window,
>>the bottom of the window, to the left, the right, and in a separate,
>>moveable window), as well as all three of the default buttons (load,
>>save and close).
>>
>>I haven't yet included an icon for load because I'm working on that image.
>>
>>If anyone has any comments, please send them to me so I can address them.
>>
>>Daryl, aka, raceimaztion.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
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Hi, all,

As per Toby's previous suggestion, I've changed the button panel's 
default background colour to White.

I've also added more "ways" to activate the context menu, namely, 
BUTTON2 & Shift+BUTTON1.
I hope that helps somewhat.

Otherwise, I can't figure out what's wrong with the menus on Linux and 
Max OS X.
You might want to check which version of Java you're using, but I don't 
have any experience working with Java on Linux/Unix, so I don't know how 
to help yet.
I'm very puzzled :-(

Daryl.


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An update on my testing:

A few days ago I finally had my Linux box set up and have spent the last 
few days locating and installing the dependencies and finally I can do 
work on it.
Unfortunately, it's only 200MHz (as apposed to 1.8GHz on my Windows PC), 
and only has 144Megs of RAM, so it runs R-E-A-L-L-Y slow.
Also, the first time I ran TheButtonMatrixTest, Eclipse crashed with a 
fatal exception. But it did work the way it was written, for a few seconds.

Daryl.

Daryl Van Humbeck wrote:

> Hi, all,
>
> As per Toby's previous suggestion, I've changed the button panel's 
> default background colour to White.
>
> I've also added more "ways" to activate the context menu, namely, 
> BUTTON2 & Shift+BUTTON1.
> I hope that helps somewhat.
>
> Otherwise, I can't figure out what's wrong with the menus on Linux and 
> Max OS X.
> You might want to check which version of Java you're using, but I 
> don't have any experience working with Java on Linux/Unix, so I don't 
> know how to help yet.
> I'm very puzzled :-(
>
> Daryl.
>
>


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Subject: Re: [csjava-developer] TheButtonMatrix update

An update on my testing:

A few days ago I finally had my Linux box set up and have spent the last =

few days locating and installing the dependencies and finally I can do=20
work on it.
Unfortunately, it's only 200MHz (as apposed to 1.8GHz on my Windows PC), =

and only has 144Megs of RAM, so it runs R-E-A-L-L-Y slow.
Also, the first time I ran TheButtonMatrixTest, Eclipse crashed with a=20
fatal exception. But it did work the way it was written, for a few =
seconds.

Daryl.

Daryl Van Humbeck wrote:

> Hi, all,
>
> As per Toby's previous suggestion, I've changed the button panel's=20
> default background colour to White.
>
> I've also added more "ways" to activate the context menu, namely,=20
> BUTTON2 & Shift+BUTTON1.
> I hope that helps somewhat.
>
> Otherwise, I can't figure out what's wrong with the menus on Linux and =

> Max OS X.
> You might want to check which version of Java you're using, but I=20
> don't have any experience working with Java on Linux/Unix, so I don't=20
> know how to help yet.
> I'm very puzzled :-(
>
> Daryl.
>
>


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While it does crash occasionally, I can still test parts of csjava on it.
I don't have enough experience working with Linux's command-line to be 
comfortable with using a command-line cvs tool. Yet.

For now I'm planning on doing my developement on my Windows machine and 
some testing on my Linux box.

Daryl.

Toby Donaldson wrote:

>Eclipse was not designed to work on older computers, that's for sure.
>
>On a such a computer, you would be better off to access the cvs tree via the
>command-line CVS commands, or some much simple IDE/tool.
>
>Toby
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>School of Computing Science (Surrey)
>Simon Fraser University
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: csj...@li...
>[mailto:csj...@li...] On Behalf Of Daryl Van
>Humbeck
>Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 11:58 AM
>To: csjava Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [csjava-developer] TheButtonMatrix update
>
>An update on my testing:
>
>A few days ago I finally had my Linux box set up and have spent the last 
>few days locating and installing the dependencies and finally I can do 
>work on it.
>Unfortunately, it's only 200MHz (as apposed to 1.8GHz on my Windows PC), 
>and only has 144Megs of RAM, so it runs R-E-A-L-L-Y slow.
>Also, the first time I ran TheButtonMatrixTest, Eclipse crashed with a 
>fatal exception. But it did work the way it was written, for a few seconds.
>
>Daryl.
>
>Daryl Van Humbeck wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi, all,
>>
>>As per Toby's previous suggestion, I've changed the button panel's 
>>default background colour to White.
>>
>>I've also added more "ways" to activate the context menu, namely, 
>>BUTTON2 & Shift+BUTTON1.
>>I hope that helps somewhat.
>>
>>Otherwise, I can't figure out what's wrong with the menus on Linux and 
>>Max OS X.
>>You might want to check which version of Java you're using, but I 
>>don't have any experience working with Java on Linux/Unix, so I don't 
>>know how to help yet.
>>I'm very puzzled :-(
>>
>>Daryl.
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>


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Does anyone know of a simple Java programming IDE that runs under Linux 
that also has CVS support?

I'm looking for something simple and fast, but then, what's fast on a 
200MHz computer anymore?

Thanks,
Daryl.

Toby Donaldson wrote:

>Eclipse was not designed to work on older computers, that's for sure.
>
>On a such a computer, you would be better off to access the cvs tree via the
>command-line CVS commands, or some much simple IDE/tool.
>
>Toby
>--
>Dr. Toby Donaldson
>School of Computing Science (Surrey)
>Simon Fraser University
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: csj...@li...
>[mailto:csj...@li...] On Behalf Of Daryl Van
>Humbeck
>Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 11:58 AM
>To: csjava Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [csjava-developer] TheButtonMatrix update
>
>An update on my testing:
>
>A few days ago I finally had my Linux box set up and have spent the last 
>few days locating and installing the dependencies and finally I can do 
>work on it.
>Unfortunately, it's only 200MHz (as apposed to 1.8GHz on my Windows PC), 
>and only has 144Megs of RAM, so it runs R-E-A-L-L-Y slow.
>Also, the first time I ran TheButtonMatrixTest, Eclipse crashed with a 
>fatal exception. But it did work the way it was written, for a few seconds.
>
>Daryl.
>
>Daryl Van Humbeck wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi, all,
>>
>>As per Toby's previous suggestion, I've changed the button panel's 
>>default background colour to White.
>>
>>I've also added more "ways" to activate the context menu, namely, 
>>BUTTON2 & Shift+BUTTON1.
>>I hope that helps somewhat.
>>
>>Otherwise, I can't figure out what's wrong with the menus on Linux and 
>>Max OS X.
>>You might want to check which version of Java you're using, but I 
>>don't have any experience working with Java on Linux/Unix, so I don't 
>>know how to help yet.
>>I'm very puzzled :-(
>>
>>Daryl.
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>


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I don't know which other Java IDEs integrate CVS tools, although that =
most
configurable IDEs would allow for it. Whether it's as "easy" as in =
Eclipse
is another question.

On an older machine, it might be better to look for a lightweight Java
editor, and a separate CVS client. It's only a minor inconvenience to =
have
different tools for Java and CVS.

And you should be afraid of the command-line CVS tools. They have lots =
of
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to use; you can probably crib from other examples.

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Van
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Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:38 PM
To: csjava Mailing List
Subject: Re: [csjava-developer] TheButtonMatrix update

Does anyone know of a simple Java programming IDE that runs under Linux=20
that also has CVS support?

I'm looking for something simple and fast, but then, what's fast on a=20
200MHz computer anymore?

Thanks,
Daryl.

Toby Donaldson wrote:

>Eclipse was not designed to work on older computers, that's for sure.
>
>On a such a computer, you would be better off to access the cvs tree =
via
the
>command-line CVS commands, or some much simple IDE/tool.
>
>Toby
>--
>Dr. Toby Donaldson
>School of Computing Science (Surrey)
>Simon Fraser University
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: csj...@li...
>[mailto:csj...@li...] On Behalf Of =
Daryl
Van
>Humbeck
>Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 11:58 AM
>To: csjava Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [csjava-developer] TheButtonMatrix update
>
>An update on my testing:
>
>A few days ago I finally had my Linux box set up and have spent the =
last=20
>few days locating and installing the dependencies and finally I can do=20
>work on it.
>Unfortunately, it's only 200MHz (as apposed to 1.8GHz on my Windows =
PC),=20
>and only has 144Megs of RAM, so it runs R-E-A-L-L-Y slow.
>Also, the first time I ran TheButtonMatrixTest, Eclipse crashed with a=20
>fatal exception. But it did work the way it was written, for a few =
seconds.
>
>Daryl.
>
>Daryl Van Humbeck wrote:
>
> =20
>
>>Hi, all,
>>
>>As per Toby's previous suggestion, I've changed the button panel's=20
>>default background colour to White.
>>
>>I've also added more "ways" to activate the context menu, namely,=20
>>BUTTON2 & Shift+BUTTON1.
>>I hope that helps somewhat.
>>
>>Otherwise, I can't figure out what's wrong with the menus on Linux and =

>>Max OS X.
>>You might want to check which version of Java you're using, but I=20
>>don't have any experience working with Java on Linux/Unix, so I don't=20
>>know how to help yet.
>>I'm very puzzled :-(
>>
>>Daryl.
>>
>>
>>   =20
>>
>
>
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Would someone like to work on the following feature?=20

Add a rectangle selection tool to TheMatrix that lets a user use the =
mouse
to conveniently select any rectangular sub-image of the currently =
displayed
image.

This would be useful for cropping images, or selecting sub-images on =
which
to apply image processing algorithms (e.g. red-eye reduction on a =
picture of
someone's face should be applied to the area around their eyes only).

Making this tool simple and easy to use is the main challenge.=20

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On 6/17/05, Daryl Van Humbeck <dva...@sf...> wrote:
> Unfortunately, it's only 200MHz (as apposed to 1.8GHz on my Windows PC),
> and only has 144Megs of RAM, so it runs R-E-A-L-L-Y slow.

If you have a spare hard drive or extra partition(s) floating around,
Linux is capable of happily coexisting with Windows. Alternately, you
could try to get Linux running in VMware for testing purposes. If you
want, I'd be happy to help you on either of these.

I don't want to run both Windows and Linux on the same computer at the 
same time becuase I can't run them at the same time.
I like being able to switch between Windows and Linux with a KVM switch 
(basically with pressing Scroll Lock twice).
That means I can start something potentially long on one computer then 
switch to the other and do something there while I wait.

I don't know anything about VMware, is it an emulator of sorts?

Daryl.

Thomas Johnson wrote:

>On 6/17/05, Daryl Van Humbeck <dva...@sf...> wrote:
>  
>
>>Unfortunately, it's only 200MHz (as apposed to 1.8GHz on my Windows PC),
>>and only has 144Megs of RAM, so it runs R-E-A-L-L-Y slow.
>>    
>>
>
>If you have a spare hard drive or extra partition(s) floating around,
>Linux is capable of happily coexisting with Windows. Alternately, you
>could try to get Linux running in VMware for testing purposes. If you
>want, I'd be happy to help you on either of these.
>
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On 6/21/05, Daryl Van Humbeck <dva...@sf...> wrote:
> I don't know anything about VMware, is it an emulator of sorts?
It's basically a computer in a computer. It emulates the x86
environment and various hardware. You can install an operating system
on it, such as Windows, Linux, or your own custom-written OS. You can
find the whole marketing spiel at
http://www.vmware.com/products/desktop/ws_features.html

Daryl, when I run TheButtonMatrixTest, I don't see any other windows or
buttons, just the picture.

I think the calling code is still a little too complex. I think it would be
better if --- for the generic save/load/save buttons --- it worked like
this:

TheButtonMatrix bm = new TheButtonMatrix("something.jpg");
bm.enableSaveButton();
bm.enableLoadButton();
bm.enableCloseButton();

I've added an interface called GenericButtons to your developer package.
Have TheButtonMatrix implement it.

Toby


On 4/29/05 10:30 AM, "Daryl Van Humbeck" <dva...@sf...> wrote:

> Hi, all.
> 
> I've updated TheButtonMatrix extension in csimage.developers.dvanhumb to
> use a separate window for the buttons, showing it only when there are
> buttons to display.
> You should be able to see it if you wait a couple hours (maybe until 1pm
> today, but I'm not sure). I just know that commits don't appear right
> after you commit them.
> 
> Anyway, comments and feedback accepted.
> Daryl.
> 

Good point about having an interface to implement.
However, stuff like buttonsAt[whatever]() may have restrictions, like 
must be called before any buttons have been added, or must be called 
while the window is not visible, otherwise it might not display/work 
unless I specifically add code to fix threading issues.

I wasn't quite finished the code, I hadn't finished testing it, so it 
still had some bugs in it.
I don't know what you added to know what to keep, so I might just 
overwrite something you had in there.
So if you find I removed something, I probably didn't notice it.

Also, what do you think about having a small icon for the "default" buttons?
I'm thinking they're not such a good idea because they indicate that 
they're "pre-built," and not just included with the programs.
In other words, because these buttons have icons, all the buttons that 
your programs add need icons so they don't look out of place.

Daryl.

Toby Donaldson wrote:

>Daryl, when I run TheButtonMatrixTest, I don't see any other windows or
>buttons, just the picture.
>
>I think the calling code is still a little too complex. I think it would be
>better if --- for the generic save/load/save buttons --- it worked like
>this:
>
>TheButtonMatrix bm = new TheButtonMatrix("something.jpg");
>bm.enableSaveButton();
>bm.enableLoadButton();
>bm.enableCloseButton();
>
>I've added an interface called GenericButtons to your developer package.
>Have TheButtonMatrix implement it.
>
>Toby
>
>
>On 4/29/05 10:30 AM, "Daryl Van Humbeck" <dva...@sf...> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi, all.
>>
>>I've updated TheButtonMatrix extension in csimage.developers.dvanhumb to
>>use a separate window for the buttons, showing it only when there are
>>buttons to display.
>>You should be able to see it if you wait a couple hours (maybe until 1pm
>>today, but I'm not sure). I just know that commits don't appear right
>>after you commit them.
>>
>>Anyway, comments and feedback accepted.
>>Daryl.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>
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