Re: [Visualpython-users] distutils

As  per Arnd's suggestion, we are probably not facing anything that others
haven't faced and othercome.  And its probably a good idea to see how others
are handling these issues.

On that score:

It might be worthwhile to download the pygame source distro -
http://pygame.org/ -  to see how a complex - I think more than VPython
faces - situation with a host of dependencies is handled.  There is a
generic config.py script that calls platform specific config scripts, which
then finally configures the workable setup.py.

More bads news:

On the start menu, icon issue for Windows - I see that while pygame
accomplishes it with a pure Python script, the script working is dependent
on having win32all installed.

Art
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Sherwood" <bas...@un...>
To: "Arthur" <ajs...@op...>; "vpusers"
<vis...@li...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Visualpython-users] distutils


> There's quite a large number of detailed issues. To give a simple example,
a
> machine (my Mac OSX 10.2 is an example) may not have gtk-config to be
driven
> to identify the gtk library environment. And gtk-config only applies to
GTK
> 1, not GTK 2. Etc. As Jonathan Brandmeyer has pointed out to me, distutils
> doesn't address a large number of the configuration/environment issues
that
> are handled by the autoconfig machinery used for example in the
compilation
> of Python itself from source. Sometime last year I complimented Guido on
the
> fact that the source compilation of Python worked flawlessly on many
> different Unix-like platforms, and he said that there had been a huge
amount
> of work on the autoconfig aspects over a couple of years to reach this
point
> of universality.
>
> So while distutils may have some uses with respect to VPython (including
as
> Arthur has shown a nice way to produce an executable installer on
Windows),
> it does seem alas that eventually we'll have to bite the bullet of
learning
> to use autoconfig to address the many nagging problems that people have
> experienced on diverse Linux/Unix platforms.
>
> The problems will be eased by Jonathan's intention to try to simplify the
> Visual environment using newer schemes such as Boost, which Arthur made us
> aware of.
>
> Bruce Sherwood
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur" <ajs...@op...>
> To: "Bruce Sherwood" <bas...@un...>; "vpusers"
> <vis...@li...>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 9:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [Visualpython-users] distutils
>
>
> > I am running into some isues as well.
> >
> > I am not sure it even solves the most substantial issues, but thinking
> about
> > it, is there any reason the Windows and non-Windows setup.py's cannot be
> > separate scripts?
> >
> > Would also be interested in what you are running into.  Are the issues
> > intra-Linux, Linux/Mac?
> >
> > Since I have only one Linux and no Mac to test, I suspect issues, but
> cannot
> > actually see them.
> >
> > Art
> >
> > Art
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bruce Sherwood" <bas...@un...>
> > To: "vpusers" <vis...@li...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 8:51 AM
> > Subject: [Visualpython-users] distutils
> >
> >
> > > Prompted by Arthur Siegel's suggestions, Jonathan Brandmeyer and I
have
> > been
> > > doing some experimenting with distutils as a mechanism for building
> > VPython
> > > installers. The situation is not as simple as one would like.
> Dynamically
> > > supporting all of our platforms and different compilers with a single
> > script
> > > will be difficult at best. We'll keep at this.
> > >
> > > Bruce Sherwood
> > >
> > >
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